The Thinkydoers OKRs Podcast: Strategy & Leadership for Change-Makers
Listen to this strategy & OKRs podcast for practical insights on implementing Objectives & Key Results, featuring conversations with OKR experts, leaders, and practitioners (and more).
… and, Thinkydoers isn’t just an OKRs podcast anymore!
Of course, OKRs are a piece of the puzzle.
But on Thinkydoers, you’ll find tools, resources, and support for status quo challengers, as well as inspirational stories and practice tips from fascinating people whose work spans thinking (strategy) and doing (execution).
Change can be very lonely work, and it doesn’t have to be. Join other changemakers, status-quo challengers, unconventional leaders, and career rebels here to find useful, energizing ways to reduce your cognitive overhead and increase your impact.
Featured OKRs Podcast Episodes
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Strategy, Leadership and OKRs Podcast for Career Rebels
Thinkydoers, originally titled From Think to Do, started out as an OKR podcast, including host Sara Lobkovich starting to write her book (due out in Q3 2023) in public through podcast episodes.
In 2024, we changed formats to include solo episodes focused not only on Sara’s work in OKRs, but also on topics including career fulfillment, workplace well-being, and cognitive and brain health for strategic thinkers, introverts, neurodivergent people (especially with ADHD and Autism) and other people who are “wired differently.”
BS-Free Business: Why Simple and Sustainable Wins
What if the business you’re building is based on advice that was never meant for you? Maggie Patterson, creator of BS-Free Business and author of Staying Solo, argues that too much business guidance recreates the same extractive systems we left behind in corporate life.
In this conversation, Maggie shares why building around your real capacity—not the fantasy version of yourself—is the key to a sustainable solo business. From spotting harmful marketing tactics to redefining strategy as a superpower for the neurodivergent and introverted, she lays out a framework for creating businesses that actually fit the lives we want to live.
Leading Leaders Toward Masterpiece Creation
What separates leaders who create lasting change from those who simply manage existing problems? Charles Spinosa, management consultant and author of "Leadership as Masterpiece Creation," argues it comes down to moral courage—the willingness to take systematic risks that challenge industry norms to build something genuinely better.
In this conversation, Charles shares his framework for moving from seeing what's wrong to creating what's right, even when your board, team, and entire industry resist change.
Beyond The Binary and Queering Goal Setting with Zephyr Williams
What if everything you've been taught about goal setting is working against you? Anti-hustle strategist Zeph Williams shares why SMART goals fail neurodivergent entrepreneurs & introduces the SLIC method. Plus: the beautiful reframe from "goal setting" to "becoming" that changes everything.
Breathwork for Busy Brains: Another Novel Path to Mindfulness
Ever felt like meditation isn't for you? Chauna Bryant, founder of Breath Liberation Society, shares why breathwork succeeds where traditional meditation fails for busy brains. Discover trauma-informed somatic practices that work for overthinkers who struggle with sit-still-be-quiet approaches.
Q2 2025 OKR Forecast Part 2: Flexibility, Timing, and Hot Takes with Three Trusted OKR Experts
The OKR Dream Team returns with controversial takes on flexible implementation, timing models, and tool choices. Discover why monthly check-ins might be sabotaging your goals, how Excel is beating expensive platforms, and the hot takes challenging popular OKR advice.
Q2 2025 OKR Forecast: Generative AI, Localization, and Retrospectives with a Panel of OKR Experts
What happens when AI, strategy, and culture collide in today’s complex organizations?
In this candid quarterly update, Sara Lobkovich is joined by OKR experts Maria Rowcliffe and Natalie Webb to explore the real-world shifts in how teams are setting and actually using OKRs in 2025. From generative AI’s growing role to the dangers of the “two lists” trap, this episode dives deep into what’s working, what’s not, and how culture, localization, and retrospectives can make—or break—your strategy execution.
Would you like to be a guest on Thinkydoers?
Currently seeking podcast guests in the following categories for scheduled upcoming episodes:
Psychology and/or therapist experts in:
Hyperfocus
Flow
Extrinsic and intrinsic motivation
Cognitive processing
and other elements of (non-toxically) positive psychology.
You do not have to guest a whole episode — for some episodes, I just need brief interviews to fill gaps in the larger story.
Thinkydoers: A Podcast at the Intersection of Strategy, Career, Leadership, and OKRs
Thinkydoers creator and host,
Sara Lobkovich
Thinkydoers®, hosted by Strategy Rebel and OKR Coach Sara Lobkovich, is a community for unconventional leaders, status-quo challengers, and workplace “square pegs.” Thinkydoers are individuals who navigate the journey from insight to idea, through the messy middle, seeking courage and confidence to bring their visions to life.
Thinkydoers are a diverse group. We're disproportionately introverted and/or neurodivergent (but not exclusively) and regardless of personality or cognitive wiring, Thinkydoers are strategic thinkers often underserved and misunderstood in traditional business cultures.
Whether you’re a leader, an aspiring leader, or a behind-the-scenes “clutch player,” Thinkydoers aims to help you find more satisfaction, less frustration, and greater flow in your work.
Learn to unblock your inner strategist with No-BS OKRs. Then, explore topics way beyond goal-setting, including strategy, behavior change, cognitive health and wellbeing, and motivation. Our guest episodes feature a wide range of perspectives to support you in building the work/life you want most.
Increase your impact, reduce overwhelm, avoid burnout, and make the unique impacts only you can bring to the world. Here, you’ll discover how to build and maintain a fulfilling career and lead transformative efforts with significant outcomes, all while putting human outcomes first.
Ready to implement OKRs? Before you start shopping for an OKR tool or OKR tracking platform, listen to this essential episode. Strategy coach Sara Lobkovich explains why beginning with software often leads to failed implementations, and shares her proven methodology-first approach. Learn how to track OKRs effectively without specialized tools, recognize when your organization is actually ready for software adoption, and set yourself up for long-term OKR success. Perfect for leaders and teams starting or rebooting their OKR journey.